He Calls It, Club Mud Feedback

He Calls It, Club Mud Feedback

Date sent: Wed, 27 Jan 99 19:06:59
From: "Colin Bishop"
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Turkoise

Here are some of my perceptions having worked at the club for 6 months:

1, yes as everyone has said there are a lot of New Yorkers approx. 200 per week but the majority are perfectly nice and friendly people and many of them left the club telling us what a great week they had staying with us. The exception were the people who took it upon themselves to attempt to drink the bar dry and be overly loud and intimidating towards other guests. Unfortunately the majority of these were from New York and so the rumour has spread that it is a club full of people like this -not true.

2, The GOs are only there to help you enjoy your vacation and they can only do this by being told what can be done to help each individual person, if you're not happy then tell someone who you believe to be a sincere person (and there are people who work there who are) and they will do their utmost to try and rectify it.

3, The last thing is that all the "festivities" are part of the club med experience that has kept it popular for the last 30 years and if this not to your taste don't get involved, no-one forces you to do it and they never will. Finally the shows are what they are because the people doing them are not trained professionals and have to learn what the choreographers teach them sometimes in under two weeks which is no mean feat as there are up to 10 dances in one show. Try sometime - it isn't easy.

Date sent: Thu, 24 Sep 1998
From: Nancy McKee nmckee@dcn.davis.ca.us
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: He calls it Club Mud - feedback

I don't put much stock in opinions from anyone stupid enough to vacation in the Caribbean during hurricane season.

Date sent: Mon, 14 Sep 1998
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
From: Paul
Subject: Turkoise and New Yorkers

I'm looking forward to my trip to Turkoise this winter, but I have to say I am offended by all the negative comments about New Yorkers in Turkoise. Only pathetic, close-minded mental midgets would make such generalizations as "there are lots of New Yorkers -- that explains the horror stories" and "there are plenty of New Yorkers which can get annoying." New York is one the best cities in the world because it breeds tolerance for all kinds of people -- something the cavemen who made those comments do not have. Hopefully I will not meet anyone so outwardly prejudiced on my trip, and am now actually looking forward to chatting with some fellow New Yorkers.

From: MissLipton@unforgettable.com
Date sent: Fri, 07 Aug 1998
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Pirates of the Caribbean

I have been Club Med at least a dozen times and have not had any experience such as the one mentioned in this article.

In fact, Turks & Caicos was probably the most fun out of all the Clubs I have been to. The people were very friendly and accommodating. The entertainment was fun (although I had seen most of the skits done at the various clubs the past couple of years) and I was not offended by any of the skits.

Over the past 12 times I had a few mishaps but all were taken care of I am satisfied with how it was handled. I did have a leaky toilet in my bathroom for the week I was last in Turks but I was compensated very nicely by the Corporate Office for which I am taking a trip out to Sonora Bay at a very low price.

I couldn't tell who you spoke with from your article -- but I am sure if you spoke to the right person and were persistent enough at the Corporate level you could have avoided a lot of the crap you endured.

Sorry to hear that you had such an experience. Sounds like you got a few bad apples......

Date sent: Mon, 29 Jun 1998
From: Antony Marcil
Send reply to: agmwec@ibm.net
Organization: World Environment Center
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Club Med Turkoise

We just got back from 2 weeks at Turkoise. We went again this year because we had a great time last year when Kevin was in charge. This year it is Loulou, a definite loss for all GMs and GOs. We still had a good time but nothing like the festive atmosphere when Kevin was there.

From: Heather Richard
To: "'comments@cyber-adv.com'"
Subject: Club Mud response
Date sent: Fri, 12 Jun 1998

I am going to Club Med Turkoise in October and I just read this idiot's story.

He basically sounds like a loser anyway as I am sure that is why he was travelling alone in the first place. Every trip or even life for that matter is what you make it and this man sounded like he didn't even give this Club Med a chance.

From: Game696@aol.com
Date sent: Sun, 22 Feb 1998
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Club Med Turkoise

I just came back from Club Med Turkoise and I had the time of my life. And the main point is, is Club Med can only be as good as you make it. If you think about having a bad time you will. But if you go into open minded and looking to have a good time you will. You can make this the worst or the best vacation depending upon how you handle it.

From: hgb@cyberofficecafe.com
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Date sent: Mon, 15 Dec 1997
Subject: turks

I have been to club med twice before and if you understand the concept and accept it, then a good time is almost a guarantee. I will be in Turks and Caicos Jan. 11th-25th 1998. If there are any folks on the net who are going at that time send an E-mail! If you have recently returned ,please send me the "latest"news. Looking forward to hearing from you adult "Club Med campers".

Date sent: Thu, 30 Oct 1997
From: Michelle
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Turkoise

I just got back this past Saturday and had a blast. I've been to Cancun (2xs) and to Buccanear's Creek/Martinique once already making Turkoise my fourth Club Med experience.

I usually go alone so I can do exactly what I want to do and meet new people!

Got some great tips for those of you interested in going to a club med. Never book with Club Med directly. You will not get a good rate unless you do the WildCard thing or if you get a Spur of the Moment special (which you get from signing up for their mailing list on their website).

I booked with Travel Connesieur which is a travel agency out in San Diego (although I do live in Jersey). I paid only $1000 for my trip while other people that I had met down there had paid between $200-$500 more. Use a search engine and look up club med specials and you will find independent travel agencies that offer specials....

Also, for the most part, book a triple room if you can. You get a cheaper rate and 9 times out of ten you will end up with a double since most of the villages have not been filling to capacity. You could possibly end up with a single...... At the village, they don't usually check unless you have an outright single room or if by a remote chance the village is full......

There are no more bar beads. According to some of the GO's, someone had been counterfeiting the beads so now they are selling bar tickets that are different colors representing different denominations.

I never buy any tickets and do the following instead.... get your new friends to buy you drinks, hit up people who are leaving before you for their remaining tickets, take pitchers of beer and bottles of wine from the dining area and party with that. Also, at least in Cancun, Martinique, and Turks, there are liquor stores right outside the villages which you can go get your own... Don't forget the duty free shop at the airports if you don't want to lug it all the way from home!

Anyone who went to Turks that would like to chat should e-mail me direct!!!!


From: "Melissa Santello"
Subject: Response to jpherigo about Club Med
Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 1997

Why doesn't somebody just shoot him and put him out of his and our misery? Please, I'm begging you, please just shoot him.

I've been to 7 Club Meds and I just got back from the one he's talking about. I've never, ever, had a bad time. This guy would complain if he won the lottery. The last thing Club Med or the entire world needs is another big mouth, bad attitude, air polluting whiner like him.

Hopefully he'll never go on a vacation again - I'm sure he made the other guests miserable. With any luck he'll never step foot out of his house again. Wouldn't that be nice?

Date sent: Fri, 19 Sep 1997
From: Debbie Keltz
Organization: York University
To: strange@cyber-adv.com
Subject: More Club Med Hell

Hi I was reading one of the Club Med stories and I just returned from my very own person Club Med Hell trip. Instead of Turquoise this was in Paradise Island. It was a terrible trip complete with rude French GO's and a rude French roommate. There wasn't much to do since it rained almost every day. My friends and I spent more time across the way at the Atlantis casino and hotel. Club Med should be avoided at all costs.

Lee From Canada

From: PGSM82A@prodigy.com (MR MARK S WAGNER)
Date sent: Wed, 19 Feb 1997
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Turkoise

Wow, I'm flying to turkoise 2/21 and i hope the club Mud review is not accurate! I've been to Huatulco and Cancun and had a wonderful time!!! I was looking forward to learning to scuba and experiencing the carribean style club Med....I'll report back on my experience...i can't help feeling that the writer of this piece was pissed off from the start.....

From: KenMD24@aol.com
Date sent: Fri, 14 Feb 1997
To: comments@cyber-adv.com

This is a perfect example of a bitter person seeing everything bitter. I have been to several club meds. To be rerouted to Turkoise is something I would have loved. It seems like the kind of interests the author has can be satisfied while sitting in a couch somewhere in LA or NY watchig T.V.

There are 2 ways of travelling: The organized way or the adventerous way. Club med is the organized way and if what you are looking for is getting in touch with the local culture and history that is a wrong choice to start with. The way to do that is to grab your backpack and spend the nights with the locals, doing things they do and going to places where tourist vans avoid. I have done alot of that and will continue to do so. By far that is my preference.

However club med is about meeting people, doing sports and relaxing away from day to day life. If you are in it for that reason, you can't go wrong. It is the place to be and Turks is the ideal place.

Seems like you need to straighten your priorities. By the way, with your bitterness you would have hated it anywhere you went. But thanks for the honest comments. I wish they weren't so polarized. I agree that all is not great in CM but all isn't great anywhere including Martinique.

Good Luck

Date sent: Sat, 18 Jan 97
From: Judy Guffey
Organization: University of Hawaii Employment Training Center
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Club Mud

I haven't been to "Turks" but over the past 25 years I've been to 8 different villages. I continue to believe this is the best way to go if you want to think about nothing! I've traveled solo, with a friend, with a relative, and with a husband. Each experience was different and memorable. I've shared rooms with strangers, and had a single (Sonora). When traveling alone I prefer the single. Club Med is not the Four Seasons. Never was billed as such. It's for getting away...which is possible...or doing something non-stop...which is possible.

Date sent: Wed, 08 Jan 1997
From: Steven Goodman
To: comments@CYBER-ADV.com
Subject: Club Med Turkoise

Having been to Club Med Turkoise 3 times, I understand some of the complaints. But I don't think he would have liked Buccaneer's Creek either, it is more of a party place than Turkoise.

But, a few specifics about Turkoise:

1) I have never seen a feral dog there. The only dog I have seen is Scubby, the scuba dog, and she is about as feral as a jelly donut.

2) There are lots of New Yorkers (and other NEers). Which is kind of annoying, but they mostly just hangout by the pool. And most of them are "fine". (But if you want to meet "foreigners" don't go to Turkoise.)

3) If you do scuba, when you arrive ask to be "on the scuba side" (I think it is called "Marina".) That puts you on the half of the village near scuba.

4) If you want to drink a lot, bring your own. Or go shopping soon after you get there. Club Med doesn't like it, but they won't stop you if you are "cool" about it. (Last time I was there, I would ask for a glass with ice at the bar, and then wander off to my room to pour my own drink.) (If you want to drink A TON, go to an all-inclusive where alcohol is included.)

5) It IS Summer Camp, just for adults (or want-a-bee adults). And the GOs are just camp counselors in disguise... But it is nice to be able to scuba dive every morning, and play basketball every afternoon, etc. But the entertainment does suck, and the DJs are clue-less, oh well, can't have everything.

Hum, think its time to plan my next vacation...


From: afrascino@itmv02.ail.com
Date sent: Mon, 25 Nov 1996
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Turkoise experience

I am surprised at all the negative feedback I have read about Turkoise. I just came back from my first Club Med (in Turkoise) and thought it was the best vacation I have ever had! I met a great group of people and the activities were well presented. I traveled alone for the first time in my life, and found it to be a fantastic experience. Where else could you swim with a wild dolphin besides a science expedition with Jacques Cousteau? I went with the attitude of just relaxing on the beach and keeping to myself, but I ended getting involved with all the activities available. Maybe Club Med is like summer camp, but since I had never been to summer camp as a kid I didn't associate the stigma with it.

I think that Club Med is a great place to travel if traveling alone. I met people who came as couples and in groups who may not have been having a good time because they were "confined" to their "click". If you go to Club Med with an opened mind, it is almost impossible to have a bad time. It has taken me a week to wipe the smile off my face :) It's too bad that some people had a bad time. In my case, it was just what the doctor ordered.


Date sent: Wed, 20 Nov 1996
From: AML
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: CLUB MUD- NOT!


Date sent: Thu, 12 Sep 1996
From: adam
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Turkoise

I am going on the 1st of November. I am curious If the club was damaged by Hortense???

(Editor's note: Our sources tell us that no Club Med has ever sustained any significant damage to date).

Also what The hell is a feral dog??? And from the sound of it Turkoise doesn't sound much fun. I was in Martinique last year I had a good time despite the French people. I thought the experience reminded me of summer camp.

Date sent: Tue, 20 Aug 1996
From: Bob Sumner
To: comments@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Club Mud

Really enjoyed this. Went through the same horrible experience.

Bob Sumner, Utah, USA

Date sent: Mon, 06 May 96
From: Gary Kline
To: info@cyber-adv.com
Subject: Club Mud

I just read the "He Calls It, Club Mud" posting and would like to respond:

I wound up in Club Med Turquoise also, but on purpose. I was there in the spring of '92, actually. Some of the things you said were true: the school bus ride, the corny "Hands Up" music, and silly festivities. But I didn't see any feral dogs at night (I was on the beach past 10pm many times).

My trip was quite fun. I went by myself, but met up with small groups of people over the first few days that by the third day were one large group of 16 people that socialized for the rest of the vacation. The food was better than I expected, and since I don't seek to get stoned drunk every night, the "bar bead" scam didn't bother me much. My roomate was quiet and scarce, so no problems on that end. I felt like a kid in a playground, not having any worries, doing one thing or another on a whim. My return trip was spent in the company of a new girlfriend who lived only 40 minutes from my home, and several other people from our social group that were close by.

I think Club Med seeks to appeal to a wide range of people. A trip is also very dependent on the quality of people you meet. I went with the intention of meeting new people and socializing. If there wasn't anyone worth being with, I probably would have absorbed myself in the activities, but would have been disappointed.

Just another perspective,

-Gary Kline

Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:39:08 -0500
From: amccrack@pen.k12.va.us

Thank you for your review of "Club Mud." I think I'll look in to something else for my next vacation.

Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:29:45 -0500
From: JonRoberts@aol.com Subject: Mailing list form response.

Enjoyed your ClubMud story...too baad I didn't read it sooner. I just returned from Punta Cana, and while we didn't have as bad a time as you, I found the tone of your story precisely on target. Our flight stopped both ways at Turks. One of the "guests" there made us all feel better about our experience. She was struggling into the plane on crutches, probably from "Dances with feral dogs"

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